Abstract. The emergence of superlattice periodicities at metal to insulator transitions in hole doped perovskite oxides responds to a rearrangement of the local atomic structure, and electron and spin density distribution. Originally, the ionic model based on a checkerboard- type atomic distribution served to describe the low temperature charge and orbital ordered (COO) phases arising in half- doped manganites. In the last years, the exploitation of resonant x- ray scattering (RXS) capabilities has shown the need to revisit these concepts and improve the picture. Yet, we have realised that COO is a more common phenomenon than expected that can be observed in a wide range of doping levels. Here we compare the experimental data recently collected by RXS on La_0.4Sr_1.6MnO₄ (x=0.60) and La(Pr)_1/3Sr_2/3FeO₃ (x=0.67). The first shows a COO phase similar to that found in the x=0.5 sample but angular peak positions vs. T denotes the incommensurability of superlattice reflections. Meanwhile, the analysis of the commensurate CO phase in the studied ferrite underlines the role of the structural changes also involving La(Sr) and O atoms.